{"id":11318,"date":"2022-05-10T10:36:41","date_gmt":"2022-05-10T08:36:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.starfelt.se\/?p=11318"},"modified":"2022-05-10T10:36:41","modified_gmt":"2022-05-10T08:36:41","slug":"varfor-ska-man-inte-belasta-100v-forstarkare-med-mer-effekt-vad-den-ar-specificerad-for","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dev.starfelt.se\/index.php\/2022\/05\/10\/varfor-ska-man-inte-belasta-100v-forstarkare-med-mer-effekt-vad-den-ar-specificerad-for\/","title":{"rendered":"Varf\u00f6r ska man inte belasta 100V-f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkaren med mer effekt \u00e4n vad den \u00e4r specificerad till?"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"11318\" class=\"elementor elementor-11318\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-eb994ab elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"eb994ab\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-f534fb6\" data-id=\"f534fb6\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b1645f5 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"b1645f5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">En tumregel s\u00e4ger att man inte skall belasta en 100V-f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkare med mer \u00e4n c:a 85% av maxeffekten<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-3c9b9d4 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"3c9b9d4\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-68850d3\" data-id=\"68850d3\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-264758e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"264758e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>F\u00f6r att minska risken f\u00f6r fel i framtiden skall man inte belasta en 100V-f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkare med mer \u00e4n c:a 85% av maxeffekten.<\/p><p>Att belasta en 100V-f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkare med mer effekt \u00e4n vad den \u00e4r specificerad till kan j\u00e4mf\u00f6ras med (och \u00e4r lika d\u00e5ligt som!) att belasta en l\u00e5gohmig f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkare med en l\u00e4gre impedans \u00e4n vad den \u00e4r specificerad till.<br \/>Orsaken till detta \u00e4r att det \u00e4r precis samma sak!<\/p><h4>S\u00e5 h\u00e4r h\u00e4nger det ihop:<\/h4><p>I 100V-system s\u00e5 \u00e4r det mycket enklare att r\u00e4kna p\u00e5 summering av effekten av de tillkopplade h\u00f6gtalarna, d\u00e5 maxniv\u00e5n ut fr\u00e5n f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkaren \u00e4r fastsatt till just 100V. D\u00e5 kan man till exempel r\u00e4kna p\u00e5 att man vill ha 10st h\u00f6gtalare inst\u00e4llda f\u00f6r 50W\/h\u00f6gtalare vilket ger totalt 10st x 50W = 500W, som skall kopplas till en 100V-f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkare som kan ge max 600W.<br \/>I detta fall kommer man utnyttja 500W av max 600W = 500\/600 = 83,3% av maxeffekten. Detta \u00e4r en ganska lagom belastning.<\/p><h4>Men man kan lika g\u00e4rna r\u00e4kna p\u00e5 impedansen!<\/h4><p>En 100V-f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkare som kan ge max 600W har allts\u00e5 en l\u00e4gsta impedans som den f\u00e5r belastas med, och den l\u00e4gsta impedansen kan man r\u00e4kna ut: L\u00e4gsta belastningsimpedans f\u00f6r 100V-f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkaren = (max sp\u00e4nning i volt)x(max sp\u00e4nning i volt)\/(max effekt i Watt). I<a href=\"https:\/\/www.starfelt.se\/support\/guider\/berakning-av-i-u-p-r\/\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2320 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.starfelt.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/puir.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" height=\"249\" \/><\/a> detta fallet 100&#215;100\/600 = 16,67 ohm f\u00f6r 100V-f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkaren.<\/p><p>P\u00e5 samma s\u00e4tt kan man ocks\u00e5 r\u00e4kna ut belastningsimpedansen f\u00f6r de 10st h\u00f6gtalarna ovan med total effekt 500W: 100&#215;100\/500 = 20 ohm. I detta fall har vi allts\u00e5 en belastningsimpedans p\u00e5 20 ohm kopplad till en f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkare som inte skall belastas med en impedans under 16,67 ohm, det funkar bra.<\/p><p>Om vi ist\u00e4llet dristar oss till att koppla 14st 50W h\u00f6gtalare till samma 100V\/600W-f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkare, s\u00e5 ser man med en g\u00e5ng att man belastar f\u00f6r mycket (14st x 50W = 700W), allts\u00e5 100W mer effekt \u00e4n vad f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkaren \u00e4r avsedd att ge maximalt.<\/p><p>Den impedansm\u00e4ssiga belastningen p\u00e5 f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkaren blir d\u00e5: 100&#215;100\/700 = 14,29 ohm. (Detta \u00e4r klart under den f\u00f6r f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkaren minsta belastningsimpedansen p\u00e5 16,67 ohm).<\/p><h6>Exakt vad som h\u00e4nder med en f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkare vid \u00f6verbelastning g\u00e5r dock inte att s\u00e4ga generellt<\/h6><p>Vad som h\u00e4nder beror helt p\u00e5 f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkarens konstruktion med dimensionering och skyddskretsar.<\/p><p>Man b\u00f6r dock aldrig g\u00e5 utanf\u00f6r givna specifikationer!<\/p><h5>Impedanserna f\u00f6r 100V f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkare och h\u00f6gtalare kan ibland finnas i deras manualer.<\/h5><ul><li>I exemplet ovan anv\u00e4nds f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkaren Audac <a href=\"https:\/\/www.starfelt.se\/webshop\/artikel\/pmq600\">PMQ600<\/a>, och i dess <a href=\"https:\/\/downloads.pvs.global\/downloads\/audac\/products\/manuals\/PMQ_UserManual.pdf\">manual <\/a>kan man under <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Technical specifications<\/span> l\u00e4sa:<br \/>Min load impedance PMQ600 @100 Volt 16,7 ohm.<\/li><li>H\u00f6gtalaren som anv\u00e4ndes i exemplet ovan \u00e4r Audac <a href=\"https:\/\/www.starfelt.se\/webshop\/artikel\/ateo6-b\">ATEO6<\/a>, och i dess <a href=\"https:\/\/downloads.pvs.global\/downloads\/audac\/products\/manuals\/ATEO4-6_UserManual.pdf\">manual<\/a> kan man l\u00e4sa under<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"> Technical specifications<\/span>:<br \/>Line Transformer Taps 50 W \/ 200 ohm.<\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>En tumregel s\u00e4ger att man inte skall belasta en 100V-f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkare med mer \u00e4n c:a 85% av maxeffekten, f\u00f6r att ha lite headroom och f\u00f6r att minska risken f\u00f6r fel i framtiden.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":11323,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[31,16],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11318","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ljud-support","category-support"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.starfelt.se\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11318","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.starfelt.se\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.starfelt.se\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.starfelt.se\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.starfelt.se\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11318"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/dev.starfelt.se\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11318\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.starfelt.se\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11318"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.starfelt.se\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11318"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.starfelt.se\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11318"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}